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Old 07-08-2005, 08:25 PM   #22
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In reply to the first part of your post, Mansun, I know that Saruman researched far into ring-lore, somewhat desiring how to unmake them. Yet I also think it says somewhere that he desired to make a ring for his own benefit. I believe that was when he first began to contemplate himself as a ruler in Middle-Earth, rather than a helper.
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