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davem · 07-05-2005, 06:23 AM

Nenya is the Ring of Water.

Now, that's either virtually irrelavant, or its central to explaining why it affected Galadriel so. I can't decide, because I haven't thought deeply enough about how the Rings relate to the elements they 'symbolise'/control. Was there some kind of 'psychic' link established between the wearer & the element? If there was then Galadriel's latent desire for the Sea would have been awakened by her possession & use of Nenya.

Its also interesting that Tolkien speaks of 'its power upon her'. The Rings (& not simply the One) seemed to exert a power over the wearer. To what extent was Galadriel 'influenced' by the Ring she wore? This idea, that Nenya had an innate power which it exerted upon Galadriel brings up another question - was Nenya in some way intentionally exerting its power on her, or was the power just there & her response simply an awakening of a latent desire - Tolkien's words could be read that way. On the other hand, to speak of 'its power upon her' seems to imply that the Ring is actively causing her to feel the way she did, that it wasn't simply a catalyst but more of an active agent.

Did Celebrimbor know of this 'power'? did he give Galadriel Nenya knowing that it would increase her latent desire for the West - ie, did he have ulterior motives: he loved her, maybe he wanted her out of Middle-earth, in the West, where she would be safe?

Or maybe this 'power' over the wearer comes from Sauron's input into their making?

07-05-2005, 06:23 AM	#3
davem Illustrious Ulair Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: In the home of lost causes, and forsaken beliefs, and unpopular names,and impossible loyalties Posts: 4,240	Nenya is the Ring of Water. Now, that's either virtually irrelavant, or its central to explaining why it affected Galadriel so. I can't decide, because I haven't thought deeply enough about how the Rings relate to the elements they 'symbolise'/control. Was there some kind of 'psychic' link established between the wearer & the element? If there was then Galadriel's latent desire for the Sea would have been awakened by her possession & use of Nenya. Its also interesting that Tolkien speaks of 'its power upon her'. The Rings (& not simply the One) seemed to exert a power over the wearer. To what extent was Galadriel 'influenced' by the Ring she wore? This idea, that Nenya had an innate power which it exerted upon Galadriel brings up another question - was Nenya in some way intentionally exerting its power on her, or was the power just there & her response simply an awakening of a latent desire - Tolkien's words could be read that way. On the other hand, to speak of 'its power upon her' seems to imply that the Ring is actively causing her to feel the way she did, that it wasn't simply a catalyst but more of an active agent. Did Celebrimbor know of this 'power'? did he give Galadriel Nenya knowing that it would increase her latent desire for the West - ie, did he have ulterior motives: he loved her, maybe he wanted her out of Middle-earth, in the West, where she would be safe? Or maybe this 'power' over the wearer comes from Sauron's input into their making? __________________ “Everything was an object. If you killed a dwarf you could use it as a weapon – it was no different to other large heavy objects."