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Old 06-16-2005, 04:06 PM   #75
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By the 'we' I mentioned in "we work out that Hurin was 0.00001% better" I meant 'silly people'.
So, everyone except for us, right Eomer?
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I would have thought the absurdity of such a conclusion was apparent.
Something being "0.00001%" better isn't absurd if it's true. It's a super-duper small margin, but if proven, it still counts.
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As "Dernhelm", didn't Eowyn seem like the most deadly, suave, fearless and tremendous warrior we'd seen for quite a few pages?
No.

If Dernhelm had been ambushed by orcs and slain ten of them, then I'd start to form an opinion of Dernhelm as a fighter.

But that never happened. All Dernhelm did was ride a horse. That is hardly a case for calling Dernhelm a "tremendous warrior".
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Aren't we slightly degrading her feat because we know who she is, her background, her inexperience...most damningly, her chromosomes?
Sheesh. You do realize that diminishing a woman's accomplishments does not make you sexist?
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If some hobbit can just toss in a ring, Sauron can be conquered by the average blue tit.
Not a very good comparison since the hobbit did NOT toss the Ring in. He failed, same as an "average blue tit" would've failed.
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That said, I do not think her the greatest fighter in the Lord of the Rings
Then why defend her? Did one of us say something that was false?
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admits on her own that had she the One, she could have ousted Sauron
Ha ha! And you believed her?
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You can't go by Galadriel's boasts, surely? Even with the Ring she wouldn't have defeated Sauron.
Yep. I've seen several threads that make that point.

Plus, even if she was capable, it wouldn't make her a good fighter, because she wouldn't be confronting Sauron one on one. It would be army versus army. Tolkien said in his letters (the famous letter 246, if I'm not mistaken) that one on one confrontation was not even contemplated.
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She took one of the 3rd Age's best fighters (Boromir) and with thought alone messed him up.
Yes, with "thought"- not a sword.
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she still keeps Lothlorien safe and secret
Which makes her a good fighter?
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and personal vanquished Dol Goldur
Wasn't it mainly the huge army of elves that took care of Dol Guldur?
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