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In this year Ulmo hearkened to the prayers of Finwe
and went again to Middle-earth to bring Elwe and his people to
Aman, if they would come. And most of them proved now
willing indeed; but Osse was grieved. For his care was for the
seas of Middle-earth and the shores of the Outer Lands, and he
came seldom to Aman, unless summoned to council; and he was
ill-pleased that the fair voices of the Teleri should be heard no
more in Middle-earth. Some therefore he persuaded to remain,
and those were the Eldar that long abode on the coasts of
Beleriand, the first mariners upon earth and the first makers of
ships. Their havens were at Brithombar and Eglarest. Cirdan the
Shipwright was their lord.
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This is in the first age, time of the trees. This is before Olwe goes to Aman and before Elwe becomes King of Beleriand. So Cirdan is atleast as old as the brothers it would seem.
I ask this, is it possible that Cirdan was a Maia?
For one, he lives his entire life on the coast, hanging out with Osse?
Two, when Gandalf comes he gives him his ring, why is he so sure about Gandalf? Maybe because he knew him? Maybe he even hung out with Olorin during those times when Olorin was said to walk among the Elves as one of them.
Three, he passes up rightful kingship a zillion times.
Feedback.
[ March 08, 2002: Message edited by: Mhoram ]