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Old 05-31-2005, 07:02 PM   #4
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Well, I know exactly where you're coming from when you talk about the "flowy-ness" of The Fellowship. That movie kept me in my seat, eyes glued to the screen the entire time. It had it all (imo)--action, but not enough to bore you; scenery, but not enough to slow down the movie; some laughs, but not enough to make you roll your eyes; perfect music, and even some romance (although I'll admit that was not a requirement on my list). Sure, I didn't like Arwen's extended role at first, but I had been warned about that so it didn't shock me out of the fantasy world I had entered. And I quickly got to the point where the changes from the book never tripped my train of thought.

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The second two have less melodious movement, less flowy language and more awkward moments, some which made me cringe
I agree. The last two movies were still great and I love them, don't get me wrong, but I was less impressed with them than I was with Fellowship. Or maybe 'less impressed' isn't quite the term I'm looking for. I was impressed with last two enough, the battles, the visuals, the creatures, but they didn't have the same feel that The Fellowship was able to retain despite repeated viewings. Part of it might be that, or course, neither TTT nor RotK had the privilege of being the first Lord of the Rings movie. Consequently, neither of them had the fresh, clean feel that you, Ainaserkewen, described that an all-time first would have had (forgive me for not counting the animated attempts as firsts), though the last two were no less exciting and flashy. But it seemed the more that Jackson and his crew of writers tinkered, the more the movie and script started to snag. Faramir's change went over like a lead balloon to most audiences that had read the book, although they did deal with it pretty adequately during the extended edition of Towers (it still makes me cringe every once in awhile). Aragorn 'dying' and Arwen 'reviving' him came across to me as a forced deviation so that they could slip another A&A scene in. Arwen's time in RotK really distracted me from the movie, and I found myself having to get back into the movie after her 'changing her mind' bit. The humor became stale with repeated short jokes (as we all know), etc. The scene where Frodo tells Sam to leave really stuck me and, even though I 'understand' why PJ felt the need to do it, I still have serious reservations about it. Now obviously I'm not going to list everything that bothered me about the last two movies, but those are some of them.
Now, I reiterate that I still love the last two movies...just not as much as the first one. So I think that it's obviously not just you noticing things Aina (it's at least you and me ). As to what could've made the last two more wonderful the juries out as far as I'm concerned. I'm not entirely sure exactly what could've been changed or added to improve the feel, but there must have been something. It's not like the Matrix movies that you mentioned, where I think the W Brothers simply ran out of new ideas, there were always things in the books to build off of and plenty of extra ideas that PJ could've/did use to enhance the movies without reaching to far. They were great movies, but in the end they just didn't have the same "flowy-ness" that the first had for me. The feel of films that are expired? I don't think so. The feel of films that are nearing their due date? In some ways. Still great movies? Duh.
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