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Telchar · 08-09-2001, 05:34 AM

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Re: About elves and immortality

Well, there is very few cases, lets shortly outline them here:

A: Tuor and Idril, had Eärendil - he was half elven. His children were Elrond and Elros
Their mother was Elwing. Her Parents were Dior (half-man, quarter-elf, quarter-maiar) and Mimloth pure-elf.
Making Elving 2/8-man 5/8-elf and 1/8-maiar.
This makes Elrond and Elros 6/16-man 9/16-elf and 1/16-maiar
Elronds Children 6/32-man 25/32-elf and 1/32 maiar.

B: Aragorn and Arven - is another case, and still not - because Arwen chose to be counted among men, there for Eldarion and their daughters were pure mankind.

C: Beren and Luthien - read above - still Luthien chose mortality so she could be with Beren. So you might argue that Dior also was pure mankind.

D: Imrazor, the Numenorean and Mithrellas, elf of Lorien had Galador, first Lord of Amroth. He or his sons were NOT immortal, but mankind.

The special grace showed to Elrond and his children and Elros, but not his children was I think not only due to thier lineage, but also the deeds they and their fathers had done in the fight against Morgoth. --- There is no case like it.

You would have to have two different couples of elf and man, and then have thier children to have offspring together, to have a situation that answers your question. There is no such event in Tolkiens ME.
My guess is that they, as their parents would be countet among men.

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08-09-2001, 05:34 AM	#20
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ghost-Prince of Cardolan Posts: 887</TD><TD><img src=http://www.hbgk.dk/terning.gif WIDTH=60 HEIGHT=60></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: About elves and immortality Well, there is very few cases, lets shortly outline them here: A: Tuor and Idril, had Eärendil - he was half elven. His children were Elrond and Elros Their mother was Elwing. Her Parents were Dior (half-man, quarter-elf, quarter-maiar) and Mimloth pure-elf. Making Elving 2/8-man 5/8-elf and 1/8-maiar. This makes Elrond and Elros 6/16-man 9/16-elf and 1/16-maiar Elronds Children 6/32-man 25/32-elf and 1/32 maiar. B: Aragorn and Arven - is another case, and still not - because Arwen chose to be counted among men, there for Eldarion and their daughters were pure mankind. C: Beren and Luthien - read above - still Luthien chose mortality so she could be with Beren. So you might argue that Dior also was pure mankind. D: Imrazor, the Numenorean and Mithrellas, elf of Lorien had Galador, first Lord of Amroth. He or his sons were NOT immortal, but mankind. The special grace showed to Elrond and his children and Elros, but not his children was I think not only due to thier lineage, but also the deeds they and their fathers had done in the fight against Morgoth. --- There is no case like it. You would have to have two different couples of elf and man, and then have thier children to have offspring together, to have a situation that answers your question. There is no such event in Tolkiens ME. My guess is that they, as their parents would be countet among men. <img src=smokin.gif ALT=":smokin"> T <marquee>It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes!!! ... Anar kaluva tielyanna!</marquee></p> __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.