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Originally Posted by obloquy
He wouldn't have, if what you say is true. It's not though. Balrogs had plenty to do with Udun (Utumno).
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[from the FOTR]"You cannot pass" he said. The orcs stood still, and a dead silence fell. "I am a wielder of the Secret Fire, wielder of the flame of Anor. Dark fire will not avail you, Flame of Udun. Go back to the Shadow! You can not pass."
Please sir, I am not ignorant. If you need proof of Gandalf saying this, it is in the chapter "the bridge of khazad-dum".
And what does the balrog have to do with Udun?