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Old 03-08-2005, 09:09 AM   #3
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And (Second question) what are some of the similarities and differences between the two triangles: Raoul, Christine, Phantom; versus Beren, Luthien, Morgoth?
I wonder... Phantom wanted Christine in order that she would help him to make music. She inspired him. He wrote for her. There was a relationship there, albeit (on Phantom's part) a selfish one. And (let's not forget) Phantom trained Christine.

Luthien, on the other hand, wasn't trained by Melkor. I'm not sure there was much inspiration there, in a musical sense, either. And there's no indication that Morgoth wrote any music for her, or would have.

Which (actually) I find odd. Melkor was one of the greatest musicians, wasn't he? He was great enough to "compete" with the rest of the valar and with Eru himself, or so he thought. Yet it seems that he abandoned music after Ea "was"-- did he sing much? You raised the point that Sauron sang against Felagund-- great point, I had forgotten that. Did Melkor do any more singing once the Ainulindale was complete? I have a mental picture of him sort of dropping it and 'moving on' to darkness and dastardly plotting, no music involved. Did Morgoth sing back to Luthien?

In a sort of mirrored similarity, Phantom musically haunts and captivates Christine, and teaches her; whereas Luthien haunts Beren, and he hears Daeron's "music of a pipe unseen", and "music welling underground". In that sense, Beren is the haunted, captivated one, and his haunting is sweet (though full of doom.) Does Luthien "haunt" Morgoth musically?

EDIT: It's been a while since I read Sil, so please correct my faulty memory whenever you like!
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