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Makar · 03-06-2005, 08:41 PM

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Merry and Pippin were both nobles, in that they were the heirs to lines that controlled lands with boundries in which other clans lived and acknowledged their leadership. Frodo was not necessarily noble, I suppose. Not even Bilbo's riches helped him obtain upward mobility, though his family was well respected. It seems Bilbo may have squandered that respect. But, that aside, everybody else is a noble or a demi-god (Gandalf). Also, have you noticed all of the importance placed on bloodlines by Tolkien? So-and-so son of so-and-so son of so-and-so and so on and so forth.

03-06-2005, 08:41 PM	#4
Makar Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Oklahom Posts: 44	[QUOTE=Lolidir](This quote has been removed from this reply, as it was removed from the reply which this reply was replying to)QUOTE] Merry and Pippin were both nobles, in that they were the heirs to lines that controlled lands with boundries in which other clans lived and acknowledged their leadership. Frodo was not necessarily noble, I suppose. Not even Bilbo's riches helped him obtain upward mobility, though his family was well respected. It seems Bilbo may have squandered that respect. But, that aside, everybody else is a noble or a demi-god (Gandalf). Also, have you noticed all of the importance placed on bloodlines by Tolkien? So-and-so son of so-and-so son of so-and-so and so on and so forth. Last edited by Makar; 03-07-2005 at 03:05 PM.