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Old 02-04-2005, 01:51 PM   #33
Boromir88
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Denethor chewing cherries, while there is a battle outside. I loathe that scene. It makes Denethor horrible, and in the books I liked him and was sorry when he died.
Nice point Ohta...I'm fine with making Denethor look like a raving lunatic, it goes to show Gondor needs a king and stresses the return of Aragorn, but the whole eating scene is inappropriate. PJ got his point across, Denethor is a crazy man in his deep decline, but you have to make him have no manners and be an absolute slob too?

Finwe, maybe both of us are looking at this the wrong way, something that I've been thinking....Maybe, Faramir wasn't doing it for Denethor, maybe he was doing it for Boromir? This is something that is mentioned in the books, and is brought out brilliantly in TTT EE, the relationship between Boromir and Faramir. So, maybe he's doing this because it's what his brother would have wanted him to do (fight to save Gondor) and not because he wants to please his father? I admit this is a little hard to prove, if I even can, since Faramir does seem to ride to Osgiliath to win the approval of his father. But maybe he's doing it because that's what Boromir would have wanted him to do?
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