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littlemanpoet · 01-24-2005, 03:19 PM

I see the House of Karibzir/Melethroch ending up as the lords of some bit of Arnor when all is said and done..... Dol Amroth? Pelargir? Tharbad?

As with the House of Elendil, the House of Karibzir comes from Silmarien, therefore of the royal line of Elros. Silmarien is the mother of Valandil, heir to the House of Elendil after Tar-Elendil, 4th King of Numenor. This makes the House of Karibzir (at first called Melethroch) one of the Lords of Andunië. This House takes the name of Karibzir in the reign of Ar-Adunakhor (20th King). So Valandil has a second son who establishes the House of Melethroch. That makes the lineage ancient and loyal while having enough time to have a notoriety of its own ..... being that this one House of the Faithful chooses to remain at Armenelos. What do you think?

I would have made the second son a daughter, but I don't think that daughters had legal right to establish new lines of lineage... if they can, I'd go daughter. Why? It follows after Tolkien's precedent of Silmarien having been wrongly passed over for rulership, who should not have been.

01-24-2005, 03:19 PM	#40
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Karibzir lineage I see the House of Karibzir/Melethroch ending up as the lords of some bit of Arnor when all is said and done..... Dol Amroth? Pelargir? Tharbad? As with the House of Elendil, the House of Karibzir comes from Silmarien, therefore of the royal line of Elros. Silmarien is the mother of Valandil, heir to the House of Elendil after Tar-Elendil, 4th King of Numenor. This makes the House of Karibzir (at first called Melethroch) one of the Lords of Andunië. This House takes the name of Karibzir in the reign of Ar-Adunakhor (20th King). So Valandil has a second son who establishes the House of Melethroch. That makes the lineage ancient and loyal while having enough time to have a notoriety of its own ..... being that this one House of the Faithful chooses to remain at Armenelos. What do you think? I would have made the second son a daughter, but I don't think that daughters had legal right to establish new lines of lineage... if they can, I'd go daughter. Why? It follows after Tolkien's precedent of Silmarien having been wrongly passed over for rulership, who should not have been.