And, if knowledge of apes so far north seems strange, consider that the Hobbits knew about Oliphaunts.
Actually, Orcs probably used far less pleasant things than _ape_ and _swine_ in their insults...
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But Orcs and Trolls spoke as they would, without love of words or things; and their language was actually more degraded and filthy than I have shown it I do not suppose that any will wish for a closer rendering, though models are easy to find.
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[ March 29, 2002: Message edited by: Sharku ]