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Old 12-20-2004, 09:19 PM   #16
Maédhros
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I wonder if Maedhros will agree to that, but for me it is okay.
I'm ok with this.

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I can but repeat my mantra: no matter what we do, there are huge problems of scale in the later portions of the Silmarillion, at least if one views things from a literary perspective. I don't think that we should strive to 'fix' things through clever chapter breaks, since our goal is not a literary work but rather a simple account of 'canonical' (in the sense defined by our principles) events.
As I have said before, I see nothing wrong with the subtitle of the Necklace here. I would add the subtittle and not a different chapter break.

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As for RD-EX-36.5 - it does seem a bit odd to have Thingol doubt their purpose and only reluctantly give them the jewel now. I suppose we ought to delete this.
Where is RD-EX-36.5?

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RD-EX-22 and RD-EX-24

Okay, I suppose it makes sense for him still to wash it of its stains. But to remove the curse of the blood from Melian's words we would need to do as I suggested and change 'trebly' to 'doubly':
Yes, this is absolutely necessary.

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So in every version we have, the Dwarves that are involved in the quarrel are the same as the Dwarves that are summoned. There is no indication that any of the Dwarves summoned would not have accepted Thingol's offer (why should they?), so I think that the statement that only the Dwarves of Nogrod were involved should be taken to imply that only they were summoned to work for Thingol.
One could make the point that if both houses of dwarves were summoned, why would only one come to Menegroth? I think it is best to have Thingol only summon one house.

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I'm inclined not to use this description because we are putting it in a different context from that for which it was written. It was intended to describe the work of the Dwarves, not the original hoard. Now, the original hoard has changed somewhat. But I don't think that means that we can apply description to it that wasn't meant for it.
It is a shame to loose the description but I think that Aiwendil is correct.
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