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Old 08-19-2004, 07:48 AM   #2
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Purely from a movie perspective:

I agree that it sounds ridiculous looking only at Grima-lin. But (in movie-terms) Theoden was **posessed** (in movie terms) by Saruman; Eomer protested that orcs roamed unopposed throughout the lands. What normal man-at-arms, what normal farmer, horse-herder, husband or father, would let orcs roam unopposed? Just how sleepy Rohan had become under Grima's 'counsel'? Too sleepy; but Grima(lin)'s counsel was undergirded by Saruman's 'sleeeep, my pretty, sleeeeep.' It took Gandalf to wake 'em up.

Purely from a movie perspective.

The book perspective is more powerful to me; one of Tolkien's major literary themes is the enduringly destructive power of a lie. In the book, whenever there is a Liar whether it be Morgoth or Saruman or Grima, there were still 'faithful' to be found (in Grima's case Hama, Eomer, others; ) nevertheless, Grima's whispers to the king were the sole poison that brought the nation to its ..... sleeeeep.

"THe tongue has the power of life and death..."
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