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***Gilthalion*** · 03-25-2001, 09:54 PM

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Re: Eru and the Ainur in LotR?

Elbereth is mentioned by name and the rest are fleetingly alluded to at times.

In the song of praise to Elbereth, the elves give a poetic description of how the stars were made. I think Tolkien's story is not about the mythology, but rather is about the folk who live in it.

They are experiencing the miraculous and their ardent belief in the divine is represented in the few ceremonies and the hymns to the "West." Faramir and the Rangers of Ithilien had a simple heartfelt ceremony. Frodo and Sam felt like hicks from the sticks, but they understood what was going on.

Gandalf was sent back after his battle with the Balrog. Sent back by whom?

The folk living in the tale know. Most of their lives are lived privately away from our view. We glimpse a few outward expressions of it. But they are walking with the equivilant of an angel when they walk with Gandalf. (Aragorn speaks of this.) Their religion/mythology is all around them!

Legends are popping up out of the grass! Prophecies are fulfilled! The songs are coming true!

We, the readers, don't get to hear all the songs of praise and prophecy of the different peoples.

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I had a rather long take on the Christian persective that this lead me to think of. This really isn't the forum for a long rambling discourse on that! So check out Tar Ost-in-Eruhir in my signature for that sort of thing.

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03-25-2001, 09:54 PM	#3
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