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The X Phial · 03-15-2001, 01:12 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Ungoliant and the Valar

This sort of goes back to the question of what Ungoliant was to begin with. I mean, it says she came out of shadow and darkness, but if there is an explanation of what kind of spirit she is I think I must have missed it (entirely possible). As for the question about the Valar being able to beat her, I think most assuredly so. After all, the Balrogs fought her off and (though we don't know how many of them there were) they are certainly less powerful than the Valar together. About Tulkas, he could beat Melkor even before Melkor started losing his powers. I think he could have kicked some spider butt...if only they hadn't been feasting, *sigh*.

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03-15-2001, 01:12 PM	#9
The X Phial Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Out there with the truth. Come find me. Posts: 317	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Newly Deceased Posts: 7</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Ungoliant and the Valar This sort of goes back to the question of what Ungoliant was to begin with. I mean, it says she came out of shadow and darkness, but if there is an explanation of what kind of spirit she is I think I must have missed it (entirely possible). As for the question about the Valar being able to beat her, I think most assuredly so. After all, the Balrogs fought her off and (though we don't know how many of them there were) they are certainly less powerful than the Valar together. About Tulkas, he could beat Melkor even before Melkor started losing his powers. I think he could have kicked some spider butt...if only they hadn't been feasting, sigh. --The X Phial-- You must believe in free will, you have no choice. Isaac Singer</p> __________________ But then there was a star danced, and under that was I born.