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***Mithadan*** · 03-08-2001, 07:25 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Greetings

Welcome Elennana! I think that the clue is given in Morgoth's words. Hurin sees what Morgoth sees, but Morgoth cannot perceive what Hurin knows. To follow up on Lindil's reference to Osanwe-Kenta (an essay regarding perception and communication via thought, explaining a bit about how Galadriel, Elrond and Gandalf "spoke" silently, mind to mind at the end of LoTR), two persons can communicate via thought only if both are "open" to such communication. Because Hurin's mind was not "open", Morgoth could not read or steal from him the location of Gondolin, but could transmit to Hurin what Morgoth saw or knew.

--Mithadan--
"The Silmarils with living light
were kindled clear, and waxing bright
shone like stars that in the North
above the reek of earth leap forth." </p>

03-08-2001, 07:25 AM	#6
*Mithadan* Spirit of Mist Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Tol Eressea Posts: 3,393	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Spirit of Mist Posts: 707</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Greetings Welcome Elennana! I think that the clue is given in Morgoth's words. Hurin sees what Morgoth sees, but Morgoth cannot perceive what Hurin knows. To follow up on Lindil's reference to Osanwe-Kenta (an essay regarding perception and communication via thought, explaining a bit about how Galadriel, Elrond and Gandalf "spoke" silently, mind to mind at the end of LoTR), two persons can communicate via thought only if both are "open" to such communication. Because Hurin's mind was not "open", Morgoth could not read or steal from him the location of Gondolin, but could transmit to Hurin what Morgoth saw or knew. --Mithadan-- "The Silmarils with living light were kindled clear, and waxing bright shone like stars that in the North above the reek of earth leap forth." </p> __________________ Beleriand, Beleriand, the borders of the Elven-land.