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Old 04-10-2003, 09:01 AM   #8
Annunfuiniel
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WHERE IS THERE AN EXAMPLE OF 'TOLKIENESQUE' SUB-CREATION (according to Tolkien, the ability in which we are closest to our creator) IN ME?!!(...)There should be some Elvish equivalent of The Silmarillion! - ie an invented mythology within ME.
Well, could the answer be as simple as that there was no need for a wholly invented mythology? The elves still possessed first hand knowledge (learned from the Ainur) concerning the creation of Ea and the early days. To the elves the Silmarillion (which of course wasn't called that but anyway) was their mythology, based on true stories. (May I add that the word 'myth' (in greece) means the speech of god(s). Our way of seeing myths as fictional is therefore a late transformation; to the old Greeks as to the elves the myths were de facto the words of god)

I assume that the men also had learned this information from the elves ages ago. And here's the place where sub-creation enters the picture: as time went by men became estranged from elves and their "world view" ie. the creation story. It became more and more of just a legend to them. So if there were invented mythologies inside the invented mythology they would most likely be man-made. Hobbits' world view was so narrow that they doubtly had any interest in creating a whole mythology. Then again dwarves had their own concepts of their origin. Maybe that's the closest thing to a sub-creation in M-E?
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