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Thingol · 04-03-2002, 09:54 AM

In the book it is not said whether or not Saruman takes Gandalf's staff. The original staff came from Aman, the blessed realm, and it highly unlikely that Gandalf would have been able to receive a new one if Saruman took his original from him. This is one of the reasons why I believe that the staffs are purely symbolic. If Gandalf's staff was necessary for the use of his power then Saruman certainly would have taken it from him, and Gandalf would not have had it afterwards. If it is purely symbolic, or at most not completely necessary, then there would not be a reason for Saruman to take Gandalf's staff.

[ April 03, 2002: Message edited by: Thingol ]

04-03-2002, 09:54 AM	#8
Thingol Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 259	In the book it is not said whether or not Saruman takes Gandalf's staff. The original staff came from Aman, the blessed realm, and it highly unlikely that Gandalf would have been able to receive a new one if Saruman took his original from him. This is one of the reasons why I believe that the staffs are purely symbolic. If Gandalf's staff was necessary for the use of his power then Saruman certainly would have taken it from him, and Gandalf would not have had it afterwards. If it is purely symbolic, or at most not completely necessary, then there would not be a reason for Saruman to take Gandalf's staff. [ April 03, 2002: Message edited by: Thingol ] __________________ Yet the lies that Melkor, the mighty and accursed, Morgoth Bauglir, the Power of Terror and of Hate, sowed in the hearts of Elves and Men are a seed that does not die and cannot be destroyed; and ever and anon it sprouts anew, and will bear dark fruit even unto the latest days.