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Let's cut our Newly Deceased Etharius some slack. Not everyone who has read LOTR may have read the silmarillion or even the appendecies of LOTR.
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With pleasure

Any amount of slack one may wish for would be cut at Etharius' disposal, and, yes, there is nothing bad in being not versed in something, for all of us are good or bad in some fields of our interest, but for three things:
1) The attitude exhibited in the initial post of the thread hints at judging from the movies version, and dissaproving of the books as differing to the worse
2) We are in the Books subforum and not in the Movies
3) Initial post poses not questions but statements, statements in accusative mode at that
Whilst neither point is outside the scope of person's right to express his/her opinions freely, it is likewise our right not to agree, and it is not surprising that number of us felt it our duty to defend books from groundless accusations. I say 'felt', for until you asked for respite, I did not consciously realise what it was that made me post in the thread of the kind I usually try to avoid.
Besides, counter arguments given were backed up with quotes. Far from having intentions of scaring new members away, intentions behing quote-providing are usually to the best - to interest the person against whom argument is held to read the section of the books which is quoted and change his/her views on the basis of textual evidence, and not merely refute with holy anger.
pretty nasty bunch of stuck up pranky beings re:
A load of men proved themselves a lot nastier, more sinfully proud, spilled more blood of their own kin and so forth. As for the chosen ones, I lack time to start profound discussion right away, but the thing is, elves
knew for sure that followers were the chosen ones (if such an expression is at all lawfull, for both are Children of Eru, and each has its function, so there is no talk about being chosen as in a sense like 'preferred', for Eru loves all His Children likewise) on two bases:
A) Men were to inherit ME, and elves were to fade
B) Men were granted death - i.e. freedom to go (allegedly) to Illuvatar directly.
Besides, estrangement between two races, which may have been the cause of such an attitude (as to accuse the opposite of being haughty), is ascribed to Sauron's doings.
cheers