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symestreem · 03-30-2004, 08:30 AM

Well, neither Finrod Felagund nor Orodreth were High Kings of Noldor, being the sons of Finarfin...

OK. First, Finwe dies at Formenos, leaving Fingolfin as High King of the Noldor and the oldest of the "accepted" (non-Feanorian/not banished) line. Then, Fingolfin dies at Angband, leaving Fingon as High King of the Noldor and the oldest. Fingon dies in the Nirnaeth Arnoediad, leaving Turgon as the eldest in the eldest line. If he was never proclaimed High King, he had the right. Then Turgon dies at Gondolin, leaving... um... I guess Finrod Felagund would be next. He dies at Tol-in-Gaurhoth (sorry, Nil), leaving Orodreth as the eldest who could claim that title. He dies at Nargothrond.

I don't know if this matters, but on your list Nargothrond is the only one that does not fit the above... um... reasoning. The event that occurs there is out of order chronologically... Finrod dies in Tol-in-Gaurhoth before Orodreth dies in Nargothrond. On the list it's out of order. So that would make Nargothrond the OPO because it's the only place where an elf-king didn't die there within that time frame. Ie, noone died there between Turgon's death and Finrod's death.
Does that make any sense whatsoever?

03-30-2004, 08:30 AM	#588
symestreem Face in the Water Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 728	Attack of the bold type!!!! Well, neither Finrod Felagund nor Orodreth were High Kings of Noldor, being the sons of Finarfin... OK. First, Finwe dies at Formenos, leaving Fingolfin as High King of the Noldor and the oldest of the "accepted" (non-Feanorian/not banished) line. Then, Fingolfin dies at Angband, leaving Fingon as High King of the Noldor and the oldest. Fingon dies in the Nirnaeth Arnoediad, leaving Turgon as the eldest in the eldest line. If he was never proclaimed High King, he had the right. Then Turgon dies at Gondolin, leaving... um... I guess Finrod Felagund would be next. He dies at Tol-in-Gaurhoth (sorry, Nil), leaving Orodreth as the eldest who could claim that title. He dies at Nargothrond. I don't know if this matters, but on your list Nargothrond is the only one that does not fit the above... um... reasoning. The event that occurs there is out of order chronologically... Finrod dies in Tol-in-Gaurhoth before Orodreth dies in Nargothrond. On the list it's out of order. So that would make Nargothrond the OPO because it's the only place where an elf-king didn't die there within that time frame. Ie, noone died there between Turgon's death and Finrod's death. Does that make any sense whatsoever? Last edited by symestreem; 03-30-2004 at 08:35 AM.