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Old 03-10-2004, 04:25 AM   #25
inglorion
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I think glorfindel has made a point here. The Rings of Power were indeed created with the thought of the elements: water, air, and fire. The Sun is not associated with fire, but with Light, which is also why it was send into the heavens. So, it seems that Narya wasn't created with the intention of the Sun at all.

And thus I ask again: what did Gandalf mean exactly? I have made a new theory which is altogether not what I thought at first but a very simple explanation.
If you look in the LotR-index and find 'udun' the meaning according to Tolkien is: hell or region in Mordor. When I looked at the map of Mordor I saw that Udun was located precisely behind the Morannon, even before the Morgai or Isenmouthe. So, I think that Gandalf meant places with the names. Places which indeed stand opposite of eachother and so are they.
Flame is because they are both spirits of fire, and Gandalf called for these two places, because these were close together, fighting already, and represented good and evil. Therefore I think that Gandalf chose the regions just behind the gates of good and evil. Those being Udun and Minas Tirith (Minas Anor).

It is merely a coincidence in this theory that the battles of that age are indeed also fought between those two cities, but Gandalf might have known that already, being great and wise. Which leeds me to another question... was Tolkien making the battle between Gandalf and the Balrog a foreboding towards the Battle of the Pelennor Fields? There are many things exactly the same. A region of Mordor against Minas Anor in both fight, and Minas Tirith and Gandalf both win under very great losses.

What do you people think about this?

greetings,
lathspell

P.S.: HerenIstarion - I think your quote really says it all! And I agree with you that Narya was indeed not a weapon as for blasts and explosions, but for creating alliances and dreams in peoples minds. The staff was for the blastpart.
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