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Essex · 03-05-2004, 12:49 PM

Mr Underhill,

I've already stated above my confusion towards rotk not being seen as an American film, as it was American money and profits. I've also stated my confusion about the people in the auditorium being members of the academy. I would be interested the find out now how many of them actually are members.

To conlude and really, my final post so don't bother to answer, I am confused as to why

1/ ROTK crew stuck on the side of the auditorium even though they had the most nominations as an american supported film?
2/ Why a lukewarm reception for best picture as an american supported film?
3/ Why constant (funny to start off with) mocking of another country for an american supported film?

when we had

4/ a standing ovation for Sean Penn for an american supported film?
5/ massive cheering for Miss Coppola for an american supported film?

Spot the difference?

Having looked again at the tape of the bit with Barry Osbourne at the end, I now concede I was over the top regarding Billy Crystal at this juncture. It probably boiled down to me getting more annoyed as the ceremony went on.

But what makes me even more angry now looking at this bit is when the guys go up on stage to get the best picture, you can see the audience from a camera shot from the stage. You can see a lot of the right (rotk) side of the auditorium standing, and a smattering of people throught the auditorium standing up, but the vast majority IGNORING THIS. They stood up for Sean Penn, why not for the best movie they will ever see?

I say it again, that's it for me. It boils down to me being annoyed at the audience's attitude towards Jackson and Co, and also at the derision (yes, derision) it has received in some articles in the (British) press over the last couple of days, even though these same journalists along with the 99% of the press already gave gushing reviews and know what a great film it is. It could be something to do with English mentality of knocking something down when it has reached the pinnacle. We seem to like losers in England and knock winners. ROTK is without doubt a Winner.

Farewell and thanks for the discussion.

03-05-2004, 12:49 PM	#28
Essex Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 886	Mr Underhill, I've already stated above my confusion towards rotk not being seen as an American film, as it was American money and profits. I've also stated my confusion about the people in the auditorium being members of the academy. I would be interested the find out now how many of them actually are members. To conlude and really, my final post so don't bother to answer, I am confused as to why 1/ ROTK crew stuck on the side of the auditorium even though they had the most nominations as an american supported film? 2/ Why a lukewarm reception for best picture as an american supported film? 3/ Why constant (funny to start off with) mocking of another country for an american supported film? when we had 4/ a standing ovation for Sean Penn for an american supported film? 5/ massive cheering for Miss Coppola for an american supported film? Spot the difference? Having looked again at the tape of the bit with Barry Osbourne at the end, I now concede I was over the top regarding Billy Crystal at this juncture. It probably boiled down to me getting more annoyed as the ceremony went on. But what makes me even more angry now looking at this bit is when the guys go up on stage to get the best picture, you can see the audience from a camera shot from the stage. You can see a lot of the right (rotk) side of the auditorium standing, and a smattering of people throught the auditorium standing up, but the vast majority IGNORING THIS. They stood up for Sean Penn, why not for the best movie they will ever see? I say it again, that's it for me. It boils down to me being annoyed at the audience's attitude towards Jackson and Co, and also at the derision (yes, derision) it has received in some articles in the (British) press over the last couple of days, even though these same journalists along with the 99% of the press already gave gushing reviews and know what a great film it is. It could be something to do with English mentality of knocking something down when it has reached the pinnacle. We seem to like losers in England and knock winners. ROTK is without doubt a Winner. Farewell and thanks for the discussion.