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mark12_30 · 06-25-2002, 08:19 AM

Bethberry,

I gave it a few days, and I still do think that Goldberry would set the tone of the house. I'm not sure why I think that. Maybe because of things that my husband has said about me. I think of it as his house, but he says I set the tone.

I think Galadriel sets the tone of Lothlorien-- obviously, because she's preserving it with her ring.

But I don't think Arwen sets the tone of Rivendell. I think Elrond does that. I suppose, his ring comes into play, although that wasn't particularly what I had i nmind, but it must now that I think of it. Other elves contribute too, I think. Glorfindel for instance; Elladan and Elrohir. Rivendell seems to me more like a community- tone- setting kind of thing, with Elrond at the head, and Arwen off visiting her grandmother half the time. (?)

But Goldberry-- she does the dishes, prepares the food, sings along, is always there, rustling and bustling and laughing and making rain. I think she's made the house her own, and Tom likes it that way, and rather gleefully accepts her gentle reminders (doesn't she ask Tom if the guests had had a bath, or something to that affect?).

How's that for complete projection of one's own experience?

So anyway... I'll have to think further about what effect Arwen really has (in my mind) on Rivendell, because I'm minimizing her quite a bit. Powerful Galadriel, powerful River-Daughter, far-off-and-often-absent Arwen. Probably unfair to Arwen, especially since she does so much for him as the story goes on.

Peace, --Helen

06-25-2002, 08:19 AM	#78
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Bethberry, I gave it a few days, and I still do think that Goldberry would set the tone of the house. I'm not sure why I think that. Maybe because of things that my husband has said about me. I think of it as his house, but he says I set the tone. I think Galadriel sets the tone of Lothlorien-- obviously, because she's preserving it with her ring. But I don't think Arwen sets the tone of Rivendell. I think Elrond does that. I suppose, his ring comes into play, although that wasn't particularly what I had i nmind, but it must now that I think of it. Other elves contribute too, I think. Glorfindel for instance; Elladan and Elrohir. Rivendell seems to me more like a community- tone- setting kind of thing, with Elrond at the head, and Arwen off visiting her grandmother half the time. (?) But Goldberry-- she does the dishes, prepares the food, sings along, is always there, rustling and bustling and laughing and making rain. I think she's made the house her own, and Tom likes it that way, and rather gleefully accepts her gentle reminders (doesn't she ask Tom if the guests had had a bath, or something to that affect?). How's that for complete projection of one's own experience? So anyway... I'll have to think further about what effect Arwen really has (in my mind) on Rivendell, because I'm minimizing her quite a bit. Powerful Galadriel, powerful River-Daughter, far-off-and-often-absent Arwen. Probably unfair to Arwen, especially since she does so much for him as the story goes on. Peace, --Helen __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.