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Lyta_Underhill · 01-03-2004, 05:22 PM

I never had a problem with Frodo saying "Go home Sam," probably because of the parts Helen quotes above. It might be a logically following reaction if Frodo felt that Sam might take the Ring from him. The fact that Gollum becomes the mover and shaker of the event is off kilter but not inconceivable. The part I really didn't like was when Sam turned around and actually started to leave! That's about the most un-Sam thing I could think of for him to do--leave his master alone with a a creature whom he knows is plotting against both him and Frodo. Half-wise indeed! Sam, you silly hobbit! It does make for some effective tension in Shelob's Lair, although the dynamic was different. I would have liked to see Frodo and Sam hacking through the webs together, then Frodo running off yelling down the path, leaving Sam to struggle with Gollum and Frodo to meet his fate at Shelob's 'hands'. But I understand the other way probably works better for film, making it so that the viewer has more (and different) emotion invested in the plight of Frodo at this point. ( I think I said that right...hopefully!). Cheers! Lyta

01-03-2004, 05:22 PM	#65
Lyta_Underhill Haunted Halfling Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: an uncounted length of steps--floating between air molecules Posts: 841	I never had a problem with Frodo saying "Go home Sam," probably because of the parts Helen quotes above. It might be a logically following reaction if Frodo felt that Sam might take the Ring from him. The fact that Gollum becomes the mover and shaker of the event is off kilter but not inconceivable. The part I really <I>didn't</I> like was when Sam turned around and actually started to leave! That's about the most un-Sam thing I could think of for him to do--leave his master alone with a a creature whom he <I>knows</I> is plotting against both him and Frodo. Half-wise indeed! Sam, you silly hobbit! It does make for some effective tension in Shelob's Lair, although the dynamic was different. I would have liked to see Frodo and Sam hacking through the webs together, then Frodo running off yelling down the path, leaving Sam to struggle with Gollum and Frodo to meet his fate at Shelob's 'hands'. But I understand the other way probably works better for film, making it so that the viewer has more (and different) emotion invested in the plight of Frodo at this point. ( I think I said that right...hopefully!). <P>Cheers!<BR>Lyta __________________ “…she laid herself to rest upon Cerin Amroth; and there is her green grave, until the world is changed, and all the days of her life are utterly forgotten by men that come after, and elanor and niphredil bloom no more east of the Sea.”