[The Saucepan Man]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Murky filmmaking. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Indeed. If Jackson intended Gandalf to play a part in Denethor's demise, then he goes down in my estimation (particularly since, as others have pointed out, this totally is out of character for film Gandalf, let alone book Gandalf). I am sure that Jackson did not intend this, the staff thwacking (which I must admit I really rather enjoyed) notwithstanding. But it is nevertheless rather sloppy to have a scene which clearly leaves this issue in doubt. I hope that it will be cleared up in the EE - for those of us who really care.<P>And I am not sure that I like the implication of Shadowfax pushing Denethor onto the fire, either.