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Bêthberry · 12-09-2003, 04:49 PM

Essex, could you provide a reference for your quotations from Frodo so I could read it in context? Thanks.All,Even though this is a movie thread, we should, I think, use language which comes closest to that Tolkien would have referred to. For instance, when he uses 'magic', he means something very specific about how the elves use art to create rather than control. (See Letter 131, to Milton Waldman, for one explanation.) He does not mean that elves defy the normal laws of Middle-earth with hocus pocus.Similarly, Tolkien developed the concept of <A HREF="http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=000492" TARGET=_blank>Osanwe-kenta: Enquiry into the communication of Thought</A>The concept was also considered in light of the first movie on the thread <A HREF="http://barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=001053" TARGET=_blank>Telepathic Communication in Middle-earth</A>It might be worthwhile to read those past discussions and then consider what is being presented in RotK. (A search for Osanwe-Kenta in the Books forum produces a list of 25 threads in all.)[ 8:34 PM December 09, 2003: Message edited by: Bêthberry ]

12-09-2003, 04:49 PM	#21
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6,003	Essex, could you provide a reference for your quotations from Frodo so I could read it in context? Thanks.<P>All,<P>Even though this is a movie thread, we should, I think, use language which comes closest to that Tolkien would have referred to. For instance, when he uses 'magic', he means something very specific about how the elves use art to create rather than control. (See Letter 131, to Milton Waldman, for one explanation.) He does not mean that elves defy the normal laws of Middle-earth with hocus pocus.<P>Similarly, Tolkien developed the concept of <BR><A HREF="http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=000492" TARGET=_blank>Osanwe-kenta: Enquiry into the communication of Thought</A><P>The concept was also considered in light of the first movie on the thread<BR><A HREF="http://barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=001053" TARGET=_blank>Telepathic Communication in Middle-earth</A><P>It might be worthwhile to read those past discussions and then consider what is being presented in RotK. (A search for Osanwe-Kenta in the Books forum produces a list of 25 threads in all.)<p>[ 8:34 PM December 09, 2003: Message edited by: Bêthberry ] __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away.