[The Saucepan Man]

OK, you've got me back on to <I>that</I> speech. I ask only one question. Why would Aragorn be saying that this is not the day when friends will be forsaken and bonds of fellowship broken? He is fighting for his Kingdom and, ultimately, the fate of Middle Earth, not for any distinct group of "friends" with whom he has "bonds of fellowship". The only conceivable explanation, to my mind, is that he is talking about fighting to buy Frodo time. But that's hardly a suitable basis for a morale boosting speech for his troops.<P>On the voice alone, I cannot tell. It could be either. And, of course the editing of the trailer does suggest that it is Aragorn. But it is the <I>subject matter</I> of the speech that leads me to think that it is Theoden. But then again, there are many here who, I am sure, have seen both of the previous films many more times than I, who think it is Aragorn ...<P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> I'd like to take you up on your bet. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Hmm, it's the last point above that concerns me most. I shall have to listen again to suitable excerpts from the two previous films and get back to you, Thenamir (and HC) ... <P>The green light is shooting up from Minas Morgul, which clearly has a "green theme" in this film. We see it both from a distance (from Minas Tirith by the looks of the tower in the foreground) and as a backdrop to a Nazgul swooping down from Minas Morgul. I think that kharank hit the nail on the head with the quote about Minas Morgul answering the signal from Barad-Dur.<P>As for "He is here" by Legolas, this does seem to be part of the same scene as the earlier excerpt, when he is saying "The Eye of the Enemy is moving". Which does suggest that it is about Sauron. It looks to be either in Edoras or Minas Tirith, more likely Edoras from the look of the mountains in the background. It is certainly not the Black Gate, so it is not evidence of Sauron making an appearance there. Frankly, I am at a loss even to speculate what Legolas might mean by this ... <P>... OK, I'm not one to pass up the opportunity of speculating as far as this trailer is concerned. Perhaps he says this at the same time as Pippin is looking into the Palantir, and it's a reaction to Sauron's "presence" in the Palantir. Pure speculation, of course. <P>While on the subject of Sauron appearing, there is a shot towards the end (in the sequence where a number of shots appear in quick succession) where Aragorn is wielding Anduril with a slightly desparate look in his eye. Conceivably, this could be during his fight with Sauron <I>if</I> such a fight is to take place.<P>Finally, back to my favourite subject. No, not Aragorn - er Theoden's - speech, but Shelob. I think that the scene where we see her chasing Frodo takes place earlier than his and Sam's final confrontation with her. There is a shot fairly early on in the trailer where we see Frodo, covered in webs, walking out of the caves towards Cirith Ungol. This I should imagine, is just before Shelob emerges just behind him, between him and Sam. The shot of Shelob chasing Frodo looks to take place <I>in </I> the caves, ie before Frodo emerges from them and walks towards Cirith Ungol. It looks like there will be an initial confrontation, a chase, an escape (presumably involving the Phial of Galadriel), and then a final confrontation, when we all know what happens. Which is <I>similar</I> to the book.<P>I am still wondering, though, why Shelob is chasing Frodo when he is holding up Galadriel's light ...