Liv turned out to be much better in the role than I could have imagined, but for my money, Madeleine Stowe circa <I>The Last of the Mohicans</I> would have been an ideal Arwen. She's gorgeous, has that weird, ethereal Elvish quality, and would have brought a weight and maturity to the role that young Liv does not. Arwen crying into her pillow in Imladris is just one more TTT scene that I strongly disliked.
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