<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> While we are on the topic of Saruman, I must say that I still struggle to believe why Saruman openly gave his services to Sauron, and did not try to stop the Nazgul. If the Nazgul had gotten the Ring, Saruman would have been out of the loop. His only chances of gaining power was to get the Ring first. He was working against Sauron in the books, but in the movie he joins forces with him more openly.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> First of all I do not clearly understand what you mean by 'trying to stop the Nazgul' as that would be foolish, & I also don't think there's any real time in the movies that the Nazgul come clost enough to Saruman for him to bother with them in the first place. Secondly, to try to stop the Nazgul would immediantly reveal his <B>true</B> desires to Sauron, & he'd be out of the frying pan ('falling out of the loop' as you said) & into the fire (taken off of Sauron's buddy list & immediantly put on his 'people to include in my earth-incompassing war list). Also, I don't think Saruman is really any different then he is in the books, becuase of the following reasons:<BR> <BR>*Saruman doesn't really join forces any more openly with Sauron then he did in the books.<BR> <BR> *When Saruman was talking to Sauron about how they will 'rule this Middle Earth together' in TTT, he was clearly trying to decive him into thinking that Saruman truly was his ally.<BR> <BR> *He is still very much working against Sauron, just like in the books. But in both the books & the movies, he is vary careful not to reveal his true intentions. <P> P.S. It's really quite unrealistic to expect no PJ-bashing to go on when you start a thread about things he 'messed up' (basically), no matter how nice you try to make your vocabulary/thread title! It just happens anyway... <p>[ August 15, 2003: Message edited by: The Only Real Estel ]
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