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**lindil** · 12-19-2003, 09:35 AM

In what was an extremely pleasant suprise to me, Michael Martinez uncovered a rich mine of marital studies within the LotR contrasting the relationships of Tom and Goldberry with that of the Ents and the Entwives, found here.

It is one of countless cases were major things seemingly ignored in LotR are in fact treated with subtlty and depth.

Tolkien went on to explore the theme of potential and real discord between the sexes in Aldarion and Erendis [in Unfinished Tales] in a very upfront fashion, and indeed how it began the first steps into darkness towards the Fall of Numenor.

But leaving aside non-LotR referencs, the criticisms of Muir and Wilson, to me stem from hearts that have long ceased to actively wonder and feel joy and sorrow apart from themselves, and lash out violently anyone who would dare disturb theirs [and so many others] slumber.

Excellent topic Squatter.

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12-19-2003, 09:35 AM	#7
lindil Seeker of the Straight Path Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: a hidden fastness in Big Valley nor cal Posts: 1,680	In what was an extremely pleasant suprise to me, Michael Martinez uncovered a rich mine of marital studies within the LotR contrasting the relationships of Tom and Goldberry with that of the Ents and the Entwives, found here. It is one of countless cases were major things seemingly ignored in LotR are in fact treated with subtlty and depth. Tolkien went on to explore the theme of potential and real discord between the sexes in Aldarion and Erendis [in Unfinished Tales] in a very upfront fashion, and indeed how it began the first steps into darkness towards the Fall of Numenor. But leaving aside non-LotR referencs, the criticisms of Muir and Wilson, to me stem from hearts that have long ceased to actively wonder and feel joy and sorrow apart from themselves, and lash out violently anyone who would dare disturb theirs [and so many others] slumber. Excellent topic Squatter. <font size=1 color=339966>[ 10:36 AM December 19, 2003: Message edited by: lindil ] __________________ The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light.