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The Only Real Estel · 07-23-2003, 06:05 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Another thing, the Saucepan Man said that the Ring made the Nazgûl invisible under all their cloaks and armour, which would explain Sauron's visibility, for we saw only his armour in the movie and no bare flesh. However, when Hobbits put the Ring on, they become completely invisible, clothes and all. Perhaps this is because of their lesser powers?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> LePetitChoux: I think this is actually the expanation. The Ring didn't make Sauron TOTALLY invisable at the start of the movie because he didn't wish it to. Probably cause he didn't need to be invisable. Anyway. The reason why the Ringwraiths were invisable except for their cloaks was that they were partially in the spirit world, so they had to have something to 'give shape to their nothingness'. I don't think (correct me if I'm wrong though) that the Ring made them invisable, but rather their half-deadness. Naturally when a hobbit puts on the Ring, he can't master it to his own will (if he <I>didn't</I> want to be invisable, he couldn't change it, in other words.), & he's not half in the spirit world, therefor he's invisable! At least that's how I've alwayw understood it, & it makes at least partial sense to me.

07-23-2003, 06:05 PM	#11
The Only Real Estel Raffish Rapscallion Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Far from the 'Downs, it seems :-( Posts: 2,835	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Another thing, the Saucepan Man said that the Ring made the Nazgûl invisible under all their cloaks and armour, which would explain Sauron's visibility, for we saw only his armour in the movie and no bare flesh. However, when Hobbits put the Ring on, they become completely invisible, clothes and all. Perhaps this is because of their lesser powers?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> LePetitChoux: I think this is actually the expanation. The Ring didn't make Sauron TOTALLY invisable at the start of the movie because he didn't wish it to. Probably cause he didn't need to be invisable. Anyway. The reason why the Ringwraiths were invisable except for their cloaks was that they were partially in the spirit world, so they had to have something to 'give shape to their nothingness'. I don't think (correct me if I'm wrong though) that the Ring made them invisable, but rather their half-deadness. Naturally when a hobbit puts on the Ring, he can't master it to his own will (if he <I>didn't</I> want to be invisable, he couldn't change it, in other words.), & he's not half in the spirit world, therefor he's invisable! At least that's how I've alwayw understood it, & it makes at least partial sense to me.