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Originally posted by Tar Elenion:
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I will also emphasize again, that I did not say you were doing that. I said that was what I felt the late versions did to her character and those are not how I prefer to see her.
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My mistake, I guess that I felt implicated with those "late versions" whatever those might be. Late versions of Tolkien's? It seems as if preferences play a big role for everyone. But someone like Tolkien didn't just change his mind from one version to the next, so much as let his imagination evolve, mutate and sometimes end up where it started.
"Some Minds that Wander Are Lost (for Awhile)".
Hence, the book of Lost Tales.
But I for one accept now that there was a bona fide "ban", which is not necessarily inconsistent with refusing pardon, and a ban can be lifted not only because of proper action or sentiment by the "bannee", but also because of a change of heart or of perception by the "banner". RGEO I don't believe is clear on which it was, or whether it couldn't be a little of both.
Again, I have trouble, given their past errors and reversals of the Valar sitting up somewhere all high and mighty and omniscient, even if their intentions were always good.
I have yet to study your latest replies to my replies in detail. Nevertheless, I'll try to forego responding any further, lest I lose all semblance of a real life. So, forgive me, if I let the thread stand as is for my part, for a while. Thanks for the debate.