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Thingol · 02-17-2002, 07:41 PM

I still can't believe that the Valar would be unwilling to allow Galadriel to return to Aman if she were willing to repent. This is not consistent with the theme of pity and mercy in Tokien's works. It is Galadriel who is at fault; unwilling to humble herself, she is too proud to admit that she was wrong to the Valar. Not allowing Galadriel to return, even if she truely repented seems vindictive to me and I do not see the Valar as vindictive. I do not see the ban as an absolute denial of entrance to Aman, but as a conditional ban. If Galadriel is willing to submit to the judgement of the Valar she may return. It is Galadriel's pride that will not allow her to return, not the Valar's vindictivenes.

[ February 17, 2002: Message edited by: Thingol ]

02-17-2002, 07:41 PM	#18
Thingol Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 259	I still can't believe that the Valar would be unwilling to allow Galadriel to return to Aman if she were willing to repent. This is not consistent with the theme of pity and mercy in Tokien's works. It is Galadriel who is at fault; unwilling to humble herself, she is too proud to admit that she was wrong to the Valar. Not allowing Galadriel to return, even if she truely repented seems vindictive to me and I do not see the Valar as vindictive. I do not see the ban as an absolute denial of entrance to Aman, but as a conditional ban. If Galadriel is willing to submit to the judgement of the Valar she may return. It is Galadriel's pride that will not allow her to return, not the Valar's vindictivenes. [ February 17, 2002: Message edited by: Thingol ] __________________ Yet the lies that Melkor, the mighty and accursed, Morgoth Bauglir, the Power of Terror and of Hate, sowed in the hearts of Elves and Men are a seed that does not die and cannot be destroyed; and ever and anon it sprouts anew, and will bear dark fruit even unto the latest days.