P.J., in the Director's commentary, mentions the car rumor. He claims he has looked and looked and sees no car. (I guess he would know, he edited the thing.)<P>The jury is still out at Birdie's house regarding the bird's nest/gollum question. I did a google search for "gollum arganoth and got no matches, so it seems that we have sole rights to this rumor here at the Downs.<P>Yes, you can see the two orcs moving very clearly. I'm gonna put it down to death throes, myself. <P>I'm gonna look for that Huron!
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