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***Mithadan*** · 02-15-2001, 01:26 PM

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Re: Whoa!

Now we're going backwards, see quotes and argument from October 24-26, 2000 regarding whether Dwarves grew their own crops/tended animals willingly (they did not). I also came across a post by Sir Underhill conceding that the Dwarves traded to the East, at least after Eregion was laid waste. In my profession, this is known as either a "prior inconsistent statement" or an "admission". <img src=wink.gif ALT="

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Also, how did the Orcs (and Gollum) get out of Moria on the East side of the mountains to pursue the company after the Bridge was destroyed, considering the lack of Gilthalion's proposed extension bridge.

This thread began with the simple observation that the single-file bridge that Gandalf destroyed was incompatible with the concept of a significant underground kingdom. Advocates have dredged up both logic-based and text-based arguments regarding the existence of additional entrances to Moria on the East side. To these I add one more. The dwarves were smart engineers and builders. They would not put themselves in a position where they would be trapped inside by a simple landslide blocking a single exit. Could they dig themselves out? Yes, in time. But they would not do that. Even Erebor had various entrances besides the main gate and the secret exit.

--Mithadan--
"The Silmarils with living light
were kindled clear, and waxing bright
shone like stars that in the North
above the reek of earth leap forth." </p>

02-15-2001, 01:26 PM	#79
*Mithadan* Spirit of Mist Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Tol Eressea Posts: 3,391	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Spirit of Mist Posts: 618</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Whoa! Now we're going backwards, see quotes and argument from October 24-26, 2000 regarding whether Dwarves grew their own crops/tended animals willingly (they did not). I also came across a post by Sir Underhill conceding that the Dwarves traded to the East, at least after Eregion was laid waste. In my profession, this is known as either a "prior inconsistent statement" or an "admission". <img src=wink.gif ALT=""> Also, how did the Orcs (and Gollum) get out of Moria on the East side of the mountains to pursue the company after the Bridge was destroyed, considering the lack of Gilthalion's proposed extension bridge. This thread began with the simple observation that the single-file bridge that Gandalf destroyed was incompatible with the concept of a significant underground kingdom. Advocates have dredged up both logic-based and text-based arguments regarding the existence of additional entrances to Moria on the East side. To these I add one more. The dwarves were smart engineers and builders. They would not put themselves in a position where they would be trapped inside by a simple landslide blocking a single exit. Could they dig themselves out? Yes, in time. But they would not do that. Even Erebor had various entrances besides the main gate and the secret exit. --Mithadan-- "The Silmarils with living light were kindled clear, and waxing bright shone like stars that in the North above the reek of earth leap forth." </p> __________________ Beleriand, Beleriand, the borders of the Elven-land.