[The Saucepan Man]

That is most definately not Helm's Deep.<P>I think Elven-Maiden's theory is spot on. When we see Arwen leaving Rivendell in TTT, we are made to think (from the dialogue with Elrond) that she is leaving for the Grey Havens. In RotK, I strongly suspect that she will turn up in Rohan with Narsil and Aragorn's banner.<P>Arwen's role has been expanded from about one paragraph in the book (and of course an Appendix) to a main role in the film. This is entirely understandable give the dearth of "active" female characters in the book (Eowyn and ... er ... um). Having made her such a central character in the first two films, it is almost inconceivable that she will not play a major role in the third.<P>Alas, though, for the poor Dunedain.