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Lyta_Underhill · 04-05-2003, 10:02 AM

Ah, thanks davem! I do wonder if those people who have never read the book will prejudge Merry and Pippin when they do read about them...but if they read closely, they will be pleasantly surprised! Maybe even inspired! I read the books many years ago and then, after about 13 years in between, I recently read them again. My favorite character had been Sam the first time around, and the latest time around it is a tug-of-war between Pippin and Frodo. I suppose I am really a hobbit-fancier! <P>I suppose I can see ways out of the hole dug for Faramir in PJ's TTT, but I'm looking about for loopholes for poor Frodo, and all I can see is more depressing madness! I suppose that is one aspect of Frodo you can't get away from, but I do miss the noble, well-spoken Frodo who mirrored the noble, well-spoken Faramir--those chapters in TTT were some of my favorites, giving me a much deeper respect for both characters and giving me hope in mutual respect, a sort of meeting of soldiers on the battlefield before they both plunge into very different but equally hopeless battles. It is a meeting of minds, an almost tragic, but resolute affirmation of the quality of the nobility of the struggle, the very thing that makes me believe in Frodo beyond all hope. I am also touched that, when Frodo sees the armies of Mordor emptying out of the land, his first thought is for Faramir, and there is always this connection that is beyond words. The finely woven scenes between those two in Henneth Annun are all screwed up in the movie as I recall, on both sides, and I do believe that the "nobility" factor has been lost from Frodo and Faramir here. It is a shame.<P>Well, back to your regularly scheduled madness!<P>Cheers!<BR>Lyta

04-05-2003, 10:02 AM	#34
Lyta_Underhill Haunted Halfling Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: an uncounted length of steps--floating between air molecules Posts: 841	Ah, thanks davem! I do wonder if those people who have never read the book will prejudge Merry and Pippin when they do read about them...but if they read closely, they will be pleasantly surprised! Maybe even inspired! I read the books many years ago and then, after about 13 years in between, I recently read them again. My favorite character had been Sam the first time around, and the latest time around it is a tug-of-war between Pippin and Frodo. I suppose I am really a hobbit-fancier! <P>I suppose I can see ways out of the hole dug for Faramir in PJ's TTT, but I'm looking about for loopholes for poor Frodo, and all I can see is more depressing madness! I suppose that is one aspect of Frodo you can't get away from, but I do miss the noble, well-spoken Frodo who mirrored the noble, well-spoken Faramir--those chapters in TTT were some of my favorites, giving me a much deeper respect for both characters and giving me hope in mutual respect, a sort of meeting of soldiers on the battlefield before they both plunge into very different but equally hopeless battles. It is a meeting of minds, an almost tragic, but resolute affirmation of the quality of the nobility of the struggle, the very thing that makes me believe in Frodo beyond all hope. I am also touched that, when Frodo sees the armies of Mordor emptying out of the land, his first thought is for Faramir, and there is always this connection that is beyond words. The finely woven scenes between those two in Henneth Annun are all screwed up in the movie as I recall, on both sides, and I do believe that the "nobility" factor has been lost from Frodo and Faramir here. It is a shame.<P>Well, back to your regularly scheduled madness!<P>Cheers!<BR>Lyta __________________ “…she laid herself to rest upon Cerin Amroth; and there is her green grave, until the world is changed, and all the days of her life are utterly forgotten by men that come after, and elanor and niphredil bloom no more east of the Sea.”