Thread: Letter to PJ
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Old 12-21-2002, 06:58 PM   #22
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> All I have to tell him is to keep up the good work! TTT ROCKED! I've seen it twice already, there were no mistakes! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>What, did you say? No mistakes! Good grief man, he bent whole plotlines out order, he mutated characters into shells of their former selves. I he was making a rendition of TTT then I would consider thoses to be BIG mistakes. However, if he was making a movie to<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> - keeping the audience interested<BR>- making a profit<BR>- not confusing people <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>then he's made a mistake of a differnt nature. Is that what we want in a TTT rendition. A film made exclusivly for moolah, a film targeted at audiences who only want a simple action flick without any bothersome plotlines to get in the way. Ok PJ has not done this exclusively, he has kept it somewhat close to the book but not near what the first movie was. I loved the first movie it caught a a vision of what Tolkien intended for the book. Now, I especialy will never know what Tolkien meant for the stroy, but the safest route to ensure making a meaningfull movie is to stick close to the book. Instead PJ oversimplified characters and changed them arouond to fit HIS vision, not the book. One of the things that makes the LotR so interesting and endearing is the complex themes within the story. By pandering to an audience whose sole concern is for a movie that is entertaining to the jaded masses and not a movie whoses story has depth and "character", PJ has destryoe the fragile balance of TTT, turning it into a horror that mind reels from. Or at least mine, (I reel easily).<P>Bringing the elves to Helms Deep is not interpretation. It is an altering of the story to pander to what PJ (or more likely the whoel screenplay staff) hope that the audience will find "cool" or "awesome". Oh I guess that battle as described in the book isn't to my liking, well i'll rewrite to make it "better". The dissapearence of Eomer is not an interpretation, neither is the new Faramir, or the new Theodeon. It is a deliberate change or "butchery" (yes I call it that) of the book to fit PJ's vision. He's not sticking to the book he sticking to his view of what the book should be or more properly how it can be profitable and modernized. His profitable view. I don't know weather or not PJ loved books. He must of liked them to make a movie out of them, but his position of power over the new era of Tolkein interpretation has twisted his view of how the books should be represented. His concept is much akin to revisionist history. The idea that the victors write who was good and who was evil. This new moive is a revision of TTT, PJ now writes who was a wimp and who was evil. What do you say, Faramir was actually not a jerk. Eh less interesting that way.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> This is only his interpretation of LOTR. Some things are different... so what? Maybe he felt that some parts weren't needed, and he came up with other parts to help the story flow along. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>What gives him the right. I can forgive any interpretation or view of the original work. But this movie is to far from the TTT to be an interpretation. Some call it and rightly so a "fan-fic" version of the TTT. True enough. It isn't the original autors work and shouldn't be presented as the true story. So he found what parts in th srory he didn't approve of and replaced them with his own imaginings. Sounds like this film is a patchwork of some Tolkien and more PJ.<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> I think you guys (and everyone, for that matter) are forgetting that PJ can't make these perfect. Even if he could, why should he? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Of course he can't make them perfect and I don't expect him to. However, he proved he can stick closer to the book then this. He did it in the first movie so why not now.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> PJ didn't make any mistakes. The movie was well thought out. I think you need to get over the fact that things that weren't in the books are in the movies. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I depends on weather i'm going to see the TTT, or PJ's new movie which has many elements from the TTT but unfortunatly doesn't have the story. It's all your point of view. After the first movie I expected to see the TTT. I guess not. I do agree he thought this out well. Why though should something be in the movie and not the book. If the movie was made first, then it's explainable. If not, well i'd consider it a mistake. Not in the sense that PJ (or the screenwriters) didn't mean it happen but that it is false when compared to the book. If the book is correct, then the movie can only be on thing. Incorrect.<P>Now, it is not like I can't forgive PJ for changing it when he "movieisd" the book. I understand that some things must be changed so the book can be put on the screen. I can forgive PJ for everything he did FotR. Almsot everything. But everyone will agree that TTT is much farther from the book. He showed he could make a good rendition of the book as in FotR, why not TTT?<P>Now I don't want to write an "I HATE YOU" kind of letter. I wan't to ask him why he did what he did and will he do the same for RotK. Not an argument but a plea explanation.
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