I don't think we're suppose to read too much into the Grandad fighting scenes, and the magical connotations behind it.<BR>I think PJ probably just wanted another fight scene, and it was for humour if nothing else. Note, nothing of the kind happened in the book.<P>Regarding Gandalf and Bilbo at Bag End, a similar situation was in the book.<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Gandalf's eyes flashed. 'It will be my time to get angry soon,' he said. 'If you say that again, I shall. Then you will see Gandalf the Grey uncloaked.' He took a step towards the hobbit, and he seemed to grow tall and menacing; his shadow filled the little room<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I can only speculate on this, but my guess is that as Gandalf is very close to earth and nature, the whole mood of the room changed (including the light/weather, depending on how you call it) because Gandalf is somewhat connecting with these things, and they responded and reacted to his sudden change in demeanor.
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