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Man-of-the-Wold · 12-21-2002, 04:51 PM

Well, I saw the Bakshi animated thing when it came out, and even the cartoon-thing aside, it was a disappointment. At the time, the rights were sold down the path of animation, because prior to Star Wars, the financial and technical vision didn't exist in film-making to do it in any other way, except as a very silly thing, such as the ideas presented to JRRT in the 1950s/1960s. The rights having ended up with Rankin:Bass and so forth explains why these Films took so long to happen.Nevertheless, the Bakshi film has its good points. He had some fine ideas, and as much as his budget allowed, the animation is really exceptional for that time.Still, Mr. Jackson's work is quite different, and putting aside the type of money that now exists for this sort of thing, he has really done a great job of producing something that can justify the price tag for general (nonspecialist) audiences, and that is very entertaining for a book lover, but also artsy and creative, and in most ways quite true to the spirit of the Books, given that we all have different emphases in such regards.For Mr. Jackson, as he comments in the Special Extended DVD, he saw the Bakshi movie before reading the books. And though he concedes only the Proudfoot thing at Bilbo's Party has a testament to Bakshi, in fact, his Bree scenes and some others definitely mirror the animated version, which I think is no problem legally, since they should also own the rights to that work now, too.What I think it points to, however, is that love them or have concerns about them, the Films owe something to the animated movie, and Mr. Jackson is first and foremost a fan of making films, not of JRRT's "The Lord of Rings" per se, as he has claimed.[ December 22, 2002: Message edited by: Man-of-the-Wold ]

12-21-2002, 04:51 PM	#8
Man-of-the-Wold Wight Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: With Tux, dread poodle of Pinnath Galin Posts: 239	Well, I saw the Bakshi animated thing when it came out, and even the cartoon-thing aside, it was a disappointment. At the time, the rights were sold down the path of animation, because prior to Star Wars, the financial and technical vision didn't exist in film-making to do it in any other way, except as a very silly thing, such as the ideas presented to JRRT in the 1950s/1960s. The rights having ended up with Rankin:Bass and so forth explains why these Films took so long to happen.<P>Nevertheless, the Bakshi film has its good points. He had some fine ideas, and as much as his budget allowed, the animation is really exceptional for that time.<P>Still, Mr. Jackson's work is quite different, and putting aside the type of money that now exists for this sort of thing, he has really done a great job of producing something that can justify the price tag for general (nonspecialist) audiences, and that is very entertaining for a book lover, but also artsy and creative, and in most ways quite true to the spirit of the Books, given that we all have different emphases in such regards.<P>For Mr. Jackson, as he comments in the Special Extended DVD, he saw the Bakshi movie before reading the books. And though he concedes only the Proudfoot thing at Bilbo's Party has a testament to Bakshi, in fact, his Bree scenes and some others definitely mirror the animated version, which I think is no problem legally, since they should also own the rights to that work now, too.<P>What I think it points to, however, is that love them or have concerns about them, the Films owe something to the animated movie, and Mr. Jackson is first and foremost a fan of making films, not of JRRT's "The Lord of Rings" per se, as he has claimed.<p>[ December 22, 2002: Message edited by: Man-of-the-Wold ] __________________ The hoes unrecked in the fields were flung, __ and fallen ladders in the long grass lay __ of the lush orchards; every tree there turned __ its tangled head and eyed them secretly, __ and the ears listened of the nodding grasses; __ though noontide glowed on land and leaf, __ their limbs were chilled.