[greyhavener]

Bethberry says <BR> "The orcs and the Uruk-hai remain limited to their traditional role of usurpers. They are the "Other", the outsiders, those beyond the pale. There is nothing to humanize them as the People of the Mark are humanized."<P>Well, I think maybe it's because they aren't "human." They do not exist outside their role as warriors and toadies to do the bidding of Sauron and Saruman. Men, Elves, Dwarves, Hobbits, even the Maiar and Valor all exist as social units: families, communities, societies, etc. etc. We cannot anthropomorphize them to be more than Tolkien made them or assign to them rights we would extend to any human, ally or enemy.<P>The men of the South who join with Saruman are presented as people who are being deceived and manipulated. Those who are willing to lay down their arms and receive compassion are given it.<BR> <P><BR>[ December 23, 2002: Message edited by: greyhavener ]<P><BR> <P>[ December 23, 2002: Message edited by: greyhavener ]<p>[ December 23, 2002: Message edited by: greyhavener ]