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Dwalin · 10-08-2003, 12:24 PM

Wow Eurytus. I almost totally agree with you. But...I'd like to elaborate a bit. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Indeed, it would draw the Eye in a line that took it pretty much through the pass of Cirith Ungol.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Actually, I don't think Sauron would devote much of his energy to watching his western border. He has Cirith Ungol AND Minus Morgul there to help him keep track of things. Furthermore, Sauron can't even conceive of anyone trying to destray the ring so it seems unlikely that it would occur to him to "watch out" for infiltrating hobbits. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Unfortunately for Sauron, initiative is the one thing that he has not included in the Nazgul’s make up.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>One of the main themes in the books was the monochromatic, for lack of a better term, aspect of evil. Nothing under Sauron's control retained its idea of "self." Everything was assimilated by Sauron. The Mouth of Sauron is a perfect example. I can't remember the exact quote but it said something about how he had long forgotten what his true name even was. He is no longer an individual; he is just a part of Sauron: Sauron's mouth. Similarly a lack of initiative on the Nazgul's part fits very well into this idea of uniformity. They were merely an extension of their master, with no will or real conscious of their own.Now I'm going to stop my incessant rambling and go get a drink. [ October 08, 2003: Message edited by: Dwalin ]

10-08-2003, 12:24 PM	#28
Dwalin Pile O'Bones Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 18	Wow Eurytus. I almost totally agree with you. But...I'd like to elaborate a bit.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Indeed, it would draw the Eye in a line that took it pretty much through the pass of Cirith Ungol.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Actually, I don't think Sauron would devote much of his energy to watching his western border. He has Cirith Ungol AND Minus Morgul there to help him keep track of things. Furthermore, Sauron can't even conceive of anyone trying to destray the ring so it seems unlikely that it would occur to him to "watch out" for infiltrating hobbits.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Unfortunately for Sauron, initiative is the one thing that he has not included in the Nazgul’s make up.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>One of the main themes in the books was the monochromatic, for lack of a better term, aspect of evil. Nothing under Sauron's control retained its idea of "self." Everything was assimilated by Sauron. The Mouth of Sauron is a perfect example. I can't remember the exact quote but it said something about how he had long forgotten what his true name even was. He is no longer an individual; he is just a part of Sauron: Sauron's mouth. Similarly a lack of initiative on the Nazgul's part fits very well into this idea of uniformity. They were merely an extension of their master, with no will or real conscious of their own.<P>Now I'm going to stop my incessant rambling and go get a drink. <p>[ October 08, 2003: Message edited by: Dwalin ] __________________ "A man who flies from his fear may find he has only taken a shortcut to meet it.”