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Bill Ferny · 12-23-2002, 08:23 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Tell me, if there really were not a lot of fans out there, do you think PJ woiuld be allowed 850 million$ to make the movie. PJ got so much funding because the people/companies who gave the funding knew that already there are so many fans out there and allowing PJ to go all out in making this movie is no problem because at least half the fans will like/love it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>People/companies? Try New Line. PJ didn’t work on charity, and his movie wasn’t a public service to a bunch of people who can’t do anything better with their time but lament the fact that nobody gave them $850 mil to make a movie that, of course, only they could make right.You all need to ask yourselves: would you be this critical if you didn’t hang out on this forum? <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I left the theatre feeling somewhat confused about the way I felt. I was very excited because it was a good movie, but I was also saddened by the things the 'book-readers' were able to notice.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Admit it, you were sad because you saw a bunch of stuff that people on this forum were going spend hours blasting apart at their keyboards.Alright, that was harsh enough. I think everyone is entitled to his or her opinion, and I think its totally justified to dislike the movie based on its unfaithfulness to the books. There were parts that disturbed me, especially the whole Faramir bit about taking Frodo, Sam and Gollum to Osgiliath. I didn’t like the ents being replaced by Éomer at Helm’s Deep, or that bit about Saruman possessing Theoden. On the other hand, there were additions that I liked (the warg-rider battle, the exchange between Elrond and Arwen), and there were omissions that I completely understood. Yes, there were mistakes, some justifiable some not. There are certain things that only people on this forum would know or even care about knowing, and there were a couple that PJ probably should have known if he was going to make a movie about Tolkien’s world. However, I didn’t let any of these things get in the way of me enjoying the movie.When I watched Braveheart I knew that most of what was in the movie was completely fictional. That didn’t stop me from liking that movie. I guess you people just aren’t used to this kind of thing. My primary area of study, research and interest is Medieval Studies (philosophy and theology). There are practically no modern writers who give the Middle Ages anything more than a list of false additions, twisting omissions or blatant mistakes. I guess my attitude is tempered with having to constantly deal with agenda driven interpretations.In closing, if you can’t laugh at Gimli, who can you laugh at? Were you upset that dwarven women were being discriminated against on account of their beards?

12-23-2002, 08:23 AM	#147
Bill Ferny Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bree Posts: 390	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Tell me, if there really were not a lot of fans out there, do you think PJ woiuld be allowed 850 million$ to make the movie. PJ got so much funding because the people/companies who gave the funding knew that already there are so many fans out there and allowing PJ to go all out in making this movie is no problem because at least half the fans will like/love it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>People/companies? Try New Line. PJ didn’t work on charity, and his movie wasn’t a public service to a bunch of people who can’t do anything better with their time but lament the fact that nobody gave them $850 mil to make a movie that, of course, only they could make right.<P>You all need to ask yourselves: would you be this critical if you didn’t hang out on this forum?<P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I left the theatre feeling somewhat confused about the way I felt. I was very excited because it was a good movie, but I was also saddened by the things the 'book-readers' were able to notice.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Admit it, you were sad because you saw a bunch of stuff that people on this forum were going spend hours blasting apart at their keyboards.<P>Alright, that was harsh enough. I think everyone is entitled to his or her opinion, and I think its totally justified to dislike the movie based on its unfaithfulness to the books. There were parts that disturbed me, especially the whole Faramir bit about taking Frodo, Sam and Gollum to Osgiliath. I didn’t like the ents being replaced by Éomer at Helm’s Deep, or that bit about Saruman possessing Theoden. On the other hand, there were additions that I liked (the warg-rider battle, the exchange between Elrond and Arwen), and there were omissions that I completely understood. Yes, there were mistakes, some justifiable some not. There are certain things that only people on this forum would know or even care about knowing, and there were a couple that PJ probably should have known if he was going to make a movie about Tolkien’s world. However, I didn’t let any of these things get in the way of me enjoying the movie.<P>When I watched Braveheart I knew that most of what was in the movie was completely fictional. That didn’t stop me from liking that movie. I guess you people just aren’t used to this kind of thing. My primary area of study, research and interest is Medieval Studies (philosophy and theology). There are practically no modern writers who give the Middle Ages anything more than a list of false additions, twisting omissions or blatant mistakes. I guess my attitude is tempered with having to constantly deal with agenda driven interpretations.<P>In closing, if you can’t laugh at Gimli, who can you laugh at? Were you upset that dwarven women were being discriminated against on account of their beards? __________________ I prefer Gillaume d’Férny, connoisseur of fine fruit.