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Old 01-23-2003, 09:22 AM   #15
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In that passage I think the Dwarves are referring to the Nandor east of the Ered Luin, who soon [ hearing about Thingol via the Dwarves] moved on to Ossiriand through Eriador.

Sorry about Sylvan. I am used to it from a couple of other contexts [and it does look better!]

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I've done some research on this while we've been discussing this thread and it seems that the Mirkwood elves were probably of mixed Silvan and Avari blood.
What are the exact sources Lailath?

OK

I found one source at least, on PoM-E p. 174 entry for year 750 S.A. we read:

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Remnants of the Telerian Elves [of Doriath...] establish realms in the woodlands far eastward, but most of these people are Avari or East -Elves.
However this entry as it stands does not make it into the RotK appendices, and we are left wondering whether the idea was deleted due to a shift [ elsewhere in FotR we read that the Haldir calls LEgolas 'our Norhtern kin' speaking either loosely in that the Lothlorien Elves and the Mirkwood Elves are both predominantly Silvan [ as is stated in UT several times re: the lothlorien Elves] or exactly in that Haldir is also a Sinda.

I think the UT references are later in JRRT's life [ late 50's to early 60's?] compared to the PoM-E appendices which would be late 40's early fifties.

Someone else may have more exact dates and info.

But it seems from the UT sources that the Avari/Silvan mix was replaced with Silvan Elves in Mirkwood and Lothlorien.

[ January 23, 2003: Message edited by: lindil ]
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