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12-27-2001, 01:40 PM

Thanks for all the comments about my review!However, I have found that most of them miss the point or do not interpret me correctly.Lostgaeriel: You must truly be passionate about the LOTR as your lengthy entry implies. However, I found most of your reply to be more of a synopsis of the story (not even the movie in some places) rather than a response to my review. But before we get into that, I'd like to address your comments about theme. Yes, the movie certainly had themes such as love, friendship, courage, loyalty, good vs. evil, etc. But what film doesn't? You described 90% of all films made in the last 25 years.First of all, there is a difference between presenting a theme and presenting a theme well. Secondly, there is a difference between presenting a theme and telling a story. Certainly, you are not suggesting that as long as a movie presents the themes of the book it is about then it is a good movie?! What about the story? You respond to my claim that the Elves are "mean-spirited jerks" by saying this: "The Elves at the Council of Elrond were not a bunch of mean-spirited jerks." The rest of your paragraph is simply a re-cap of the happenings at the council of Elrond. Thanks, but I am familiar with what goes on there. Furthermore, I did not limit my claim to the Elves at the council of Elrond; although Elrond in the movie certainly personifies my claim. I think you might need to read the books a 21st time.Aftiel of the Twilight: You wrote this: I am shocked that you bare this film so much contempt, yet can still audaciously count yourself among the ranks of fantasy proliferators around the world. It seems to me, you betray your kindred by spurning this triumph; the first truely awe inspiring fantasy movie ever to be released. I am shocked it was as good as it was. It retained the majority of content plausible, any ommisions were logical, and it was entertaining from beginning to end. I am afraid you are in the minority on this one. Hundreds of thousands of movie going consumers, LOTR fan's and not, as well as critics around the nation, all think it is a fine film. Several hundred jaded malcontents like you are the only ones who spurn it so, and for little reason other than the fact they cannot concieve of any other rendition of something that is subject to the biases and unique interpretations of all. LOTR is not the bible. It's a story, and I think their are better ones out their, and it actually makes for a better film than a book. My sister, a great fanatic of the books since she was nine (she is now Forty!) was the biggest skeptic, and even she came around and loved every moment of it. Take it as it is, and if you don't like it, don't see it, or the next two. There are plenty of other people who have and will indulge themselves to this rare treat, and hopefully will come out better people for their journey into Middle Earth. Well, here is what I am shocked about: First of all, I am wary to take heed the words of one who so willingly casts the LOTR in the category of "fantasy". This is usually done by those who have never read the LOTR or are not able to understand its magnitude. Secondly, if I rallied my movie reviews around the populous, I'd have to give A+'s to a lot of crappy movies...say, Batteries Not Included for example. Thirdly, most of your comments seem to be aimed at my character and not my opinion. You should get to know me before you attempt impeachment; but for now just stick to my review. ..and Finally, I don't know why I am wasting my time on someone who thinks "It's a story, and I think their are better ones out their, and it actually makes for a better film than a book." How in the Hell did you get a membership on this site? I think this is grounds for a filtering process! Have you ever read the LOTR?P.S. I don't trust your sister. P.P.S. what does the relationship of the Bible and the LOTR have to do with my movie review? I never made a claim about the LOTR's greatness, I simply claimed that the MOVIE was not good.

12-27-2001, 01:40 PM	#16
rhudladion Guest Posts: n/a	Thanks for all the comments about my review!<P>However, I have found that most of them miss the point or do not interpret me correctly.<P>Lostgaeriel:<BR> You must truly be passionate about the LOTR as your lengthy entry implies. However, I found most of your reply to be more of a synopsis of the story (not even the movie in some places) rather than a response to my review. But before we get into that, I'd like to address your comments about theme. Yes, the movie certainly had themes such as love, friendship, courage, loyalty, good vs. evil, etc. But what film doesn't? You described 90% of all films made in the last 25 years.<P>First of all, there is a difference between presenting a theme and presenting a theme well. Secondly, there is a difference between presenting a theme and telling a story. Certainly, you are not suggesting that as long as a movie presents the themes of the book it is about then it is a good movie?! What about the story?<BR> You respond to my claim that the Elves are "mean-spirited jerks" by saying this: "The Elves at the Council of Elrond were not a bunch of mean-spirited jerks." The rest of your paragraph is simply a re-cap of the happenings at the council of Elrond. Thanks, but I am familiar with what goes on there. Furthermore, I did not limit my claim to the Elves at the council of Elrond; although Elrond in the movie certainly personifies my claim.<BR> I think you might need to read the books a 21st time.<P>Aftiel of the Twilight:<BR> You wrote this: <BR> I am shocked that you bare this film so much contempt, yet can still audaciously count yourself among<BR> the ranks of fantasy proliferators around the world. It seems to me, you betray your kindred by<BR> spurning this triumph; the first truely awe inspiring fantasy movie ever to be released. I am shocked it<BR> was as good as it was. <P> It retained the majority of content plausible, any ommisions were logical, and it was entertaining from<BR> beginning to end. I am afraid you are in the minority on this one. Hundreds of thousands of movie going<BR> consumers, LOTR fan's and not, as well as critics around the nation, all think it is a fine film. Several<BR> hundred jaded malcontents like you are the only ones who spurn it so, and for little reason other than<BR> the fact they cannot concieve of any other rendition of something that is subject to the biases and<BR> unique interpretations of all. LOTR is not the bible. It's a story, and I think their are better ones out<BR> their, and it actually makes for a better film than a book.<P> My sister, a great fanatic of the books since she was nine (she is now Forty!) was the biggest skeptic, and even she came around and loved every moment of it. <P> Take it as it is, and if you don't like it, don't see it, or the next two. There are plenty of other people who have and will indulge themselves to this rare treat, and hopefully will come out better people for their journey into Middle Earth. <P> Well, here is what I am shocked about:<BR> First of all, I am wary to take heed the words of one who so willingly casts the LOTR in the category of "fantasy". This is usually done by those who have never read the LOTR or are not able to understand its magnitude.<BR> Secondly, if I rallied my movie reviews around the populous, I'd have to give A+'s to a lot of crappy movies...say, Batteries Not Included for example.<BR> Thirdly, most of your comments seem to be aimed at my character and not my opinion. You should get to know me before you attempt impeachment; but for now just stick to my review.<BR> ..and Finally, I don't know why I am wasting my time on someone who thinks "It's a story, and I think their are better ones out their, and it actually makes for a better film than a book." How in the Hell did you get a membership on this site? I think this is grounds for a filtering process! Have you ever read the LOTR?<P>P.S. I don't trust your sister.<BR>P.P.S. what does the relationship of the Bible and the LOTR have to do with my movie review? I never made a claim about the LOTR's greatness, I simply claimed that the MOVIE was not good.