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Old 09-12-2000, 02:32 AM   #27
Saulotus
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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/redeye.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Who knows their trolls?

Well dude, the locations for Olog-Hai are given (Mirkwood and the mountains of northern Mordor). Cave-trolls are mentioned by name in Moria by Gandalf. Stone-trolls are mentioned when the fellowship confronts Bilbo's misadventure, (the fact that that at the time they are stone is like coincidental, I think as the HOBBIT calls them stone-trolls too). Ettendales are mentioned as Troll-country, and I postulated somewhere earlier that the term etten is prolly an old term for giant (gi-ent; an old area name held over from the early LOTR writings of Entish lands), and mentioned as having hill-trolls in that area in LOTR (which maybe these hill-giants that Bilbo mentions).

Seems to me that not all trolls are of the Olog-hai race if all these other trolls are mentioned by name and alive and kickin at the time of LOTR.

Here's like a sidebar to the dark thing; Appendix F states they could like stand the sun, but ONLY under the will of Sauron, not a natural trait. Of what exact meaning the term Twilight referrs to is prolly an open debate.

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