Amarie of the Vanyar:
Yeah, okay, my bad there. I had forgotten about that part of evolution's definition. In that case, oliphaunts are still members of the trunked mammal family/phylum/class/order (whichever it was, I can't remember. It was three years ago! ). So it's micro-evolution again, like Men to Hobbits.
But of course this doesn't help answer Gwaihir's question. Sorry Gwaihir!
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