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I wonder what he [Saruman] has done? Are they Men he has ruined, or has he blended the races of Orcs and Men? That would be a black evil!
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--Treebeard, LotR III 4
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[Merry:] Most of them were ordinary men, rather tall and dark-haired, and grim but not particularly evil-looking. But there were some others that were horrible; man-high, but with goblin-faces, sallow, leering, squint-eyed. Do you know, they reminded me at once of that Southerner at Bree; only was not so obviously orc-like as most of these were… [Aragorn:] We had many of these half-orcs to deal with at Helm’s Deep…
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--Merry and Aragorn, LotR III 9
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As soon as the enemy had gained possession of the eastern end of the Fords there appeared a company of men or orc-men (evidently dispatched for the purpose), ferocious, mail-clad, and armed with axes… As he came to his side Theodred fell, hewn down by a great orc-man.
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--The Battles of the Fords of Isen, UT V
It seems pretty clear, or at least we can conclude with some certainty, that while Saruman may not have created orc-men, he at least bred them. So give the devil his due, Saruman was capable of making his own sadistic army. This army, though, like all things Saruman did, was a cheap imitation. He imitated both Gandalf and Sauron because he was jealous of them, and his imitations always ended up falling way short. No way could Saruman prevail over Sauron, or Gandalf. So I agree with Túroch, but Saruman, of course, could not prevail, even with the One Ring, for the Ring serves only one master, Sauron.
After reading and re-reading the LotR it is not at all clear to me what type of creature keeps chanting “we are the fighting uruk-hai”. Speculatively, these could actually be delusional orc-men thinking they are really uruk-hai, named so by an equally delusional wizard. If anyone can find a quote that definitively states that these characters going about chanting “we are the fighting uruk-hai” are the same species that first appeared at Osgiliath in 2475, please let me know. I can’t find anything, and I’ve been looking for about a month now. Its pretty obvious to me that Mr. Jackson is not a complete retard, and I find it hard to believe that he would make such a blaring mistake. I think that there might be a good reason for him going in the direction he went.