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Old 11-27-2002, 03:09 PM   #61
Keneldil the Polka-dot
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I think that if the request besmirched Thingol, it probably tainted Beren too.
I don’t think it was the request that besmirched Thingol. He named the Silmaril as his price for Luthien with the thought that the quest was impossible.

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And those that heard these words perceived that Thingol would save his oath, and yet send Beren to his death;
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And if there were hope or fear that Beren should come ever back alive to Menegroth, he should not have looked again upon the light of heaven, though I had sworn it.
I think the fate of Doriath was sealed after Beren actually returned with the Silmaril.

Beren’s motovation had nothing to do with possessing a Silmaril. I think that is why he did not fall under the doom of Mandos, not because he wasn’t an elf.
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